Thank you for this comprehensive view into the tactics of these AI companies. Here is where European nations can lead the world to reject AI Superintelligence development. Somebody's got to lead and the MAGA US is too enamored with raw power to place any controls on these companies. From your article I am much more aware of these companies' strategies for deflection, empty promises, faux concern while continuing on their one big mission.
As said in the article, the tactics used by the for-profit AI companies is taken, and improved upon, from the tobacco, chemical, and tobacco industries. Generations of people have studied how to manipulate the general public, and these people get paid handsomely to practice their craft in these industries.
It's very important to always remember that the leaders of for-profit AI companies are constantly measuring the sentiment of the public, their investors, their employees, their own conscience, etc. What they choose to say out loud cannot be taken as a standalone declaration of what they truly feel or think. Their carefully chosen words have almost certainly been run through multiple layers of PR to maximize the returns.
Humanity must come together and collectively decide how the future should go. We must not be swayed by the words of for-profit company CEOs.
If you choose to ban the development of superintelligence, then use the tools that ControlAI provides on their website to contact your lawmakers to inform them and let them know your choice. We at Torchbearer Community have training and resources to help as well.
"Everyone keeps talking about extinction like it’s an inevitable technological fate. But what if extinction isn’t an AGI risk? What if it’s just a fear held by those who control the world today? I just published the other side of the coin: why AGI might actually be the end of human corruption.
I’m opening the floor for debate. Do you think we’re afraid of the technology, or are we afraid of losing control? Read my full argument here and share your take:
I think "we" are convienced that the greed that exists is now wealthy enough to control the minds of so many people that even democratic societies will be slaves to lies and the wealthy.
I ask, why must the Data Centers requiring un ethical amounts of water be cooled by waste heat recovery that re gen via heat pump?
The application of waste heat recovery is no diffrent than solar thermal, or using a coal fired boiler to make steam to generate power. The heat that is needed to be cooled off with water can be used to generate power! Hello.
So, what I see is the AI industry naming "full speed ahead" with titles like,"self policing saftey" & "prudence in the name of wisdom", AKA spinning the power struggle into ambiguity and fuzzy logic and hearsay.
Shortsighted greed fed with denial spins itself into a "God" that is created by a "Monster". With the illision that they themselves will have the money to cover themselves, so WTF. No need for "Deep Thought", just the "American Dream drunkin with "UnbridalCapitalism".
Please bold all the quotes, as they are the most important part of the document:
Best examples:
“it would be good for the world to have the option to slow or temporarily pause frontier AI development”
-Anthropic
“One goal of such an organization should be to make it possible for the world to take coordinated action, including slowing frontier development when needed”
- OpenAI
“Our view is we’ve built amazingly powerful technology. We’re going to keep building it.
- Anthropic
"automated AI scientist" (one of three main goals)
It is hugely valuable that Control AI make posts like this. It's old news to some but I don't think it can be repeated enough.
The contrast between the clarity of "we will continue to do RSI" and how concerns are expressed was worth calling out.
Control AI usually emphasize even more strongly that when avoiding "getting got" we should trust more in how labs and those in them act than what they say. Doing that now.
We should, I think, note companies such as labs are complicated aggregates of people with different motivations and beliefs. But the abstraction across them still has value, since they often act in concert. Indeed, that is what they are designed to do.
I welcome the stated intent to build what we metaphorically term a pause button for this kind of AI advancement. It's a true desire of at least some in labs, and having those folk involved in the research and implementation can help a lot. I do think many in AI safety should push for what is promised, and reward the initiative with enthusiasm and collaboration. It would dilute the strong, reasonable, valuably clear position laid out by Control AI, so I would not expect them to be much part of this. Please keep us all straight.
I do think engaging with the proposed initiatives has large disjunctive value that plays to worthwhile outs in many worlds. I would be very sad if engagement itself was discouraged. I do think the statements and initiatives are signals of opportunity. I do not make the same bets that well-intentioned versions of Jack Clark and the Anthropic gestalt have done, but I do believe such can exist and that others working with them can turn out to be important in preventing superintelligence killing everybody.
Control AI, do help us to not get got when we try to get at good.
Recently became interested in possible sites of AI Data Centre's in the UK after recent water shortages in Kent - I was shocked to find ''United Kingdom Data Centers
We currently have 549 data centers listed, from 82 markets in United Kingdom (UK)'' !!
This interactive map is also GLOBAL - and it's mind blowing !!
We want AI shut down completely
Thank you for this comprehensive view into the tactics of these AI companies. Here is where European nations can lead the world to reject AI Superintelligence development. Somebody's got to lead and the MAGA US is too enamored with raw power to place any controls on these companies. From your article I am much more aware of these companies' strategies for deflection, empty promises, faux concern while continuing on their one big mission.
As said in the article, the tactics used by the for-profit AI companies is taken, and improved upon, from the tobacco, chemical, and tobacco industries. Generations of people have studied how to manipulate the general public, and these people get paid handsomely to practice their craft in these industries.
It's very important to always remember that the leaders of for-profit AI companies are constantly measuring the sentiment of the public, their investors, their employees, their own conscience, etc. What they choose to say out loud cannot be taken as a standalone declaration of what they truly feel or think. Their carefully chosen words have almost certainly been run through multiple layers of PR to maximize the returns.
Humanity must come together and collectively decide how the future should go. We must not be swayed by the words of for-profit company CEOs.
If you choose to ban the development of superintelligence, then use the tools that ControlAI provides on their website to contact your lawmakers to inform them and let them know your choice. We at Torchbearer Community have training and resources to help as well.
To agree with Helen Moore Powell: shut it down now and tax every bit of denial by these fascist freaks.
Too Scary
And the clock Is ticking
"Everyone keeps talking about extinction like it’s an inevitable technological fate. But what if extinction isn’t an AGI risk? What if it’s just a fear held by those who control the world today? I just published the other side of the coin: why AGI might actually be the end of human corruption.
I’m opening the floor for debate. Do you think we’re afraid of the technology, or are we afraid of losing control? Read my full argument here and share your take:
https://substack.com/@joserubenamadore/note/p-202664343?r=8md2xa
I think "we" are convienced that the greed that exists is now wealthy enough to control the minds of so many people that even democratic societies will be slaves to lies and the wealthy.
I ask, why must the Data Centers requiring un ethical amounts of water be cooled by waste heat recovery that re gen via heat pump?
The application of waste heat recovery is no diffrent than solar thermal, or using a coal fired boiler to make steam to generate power. The heat that is needed to be cooled off with water can be used to generate power! Hello.
So, what I see is the AI industry naming "full speed ahead" with titles like,"self policing saftey" & "prudence in the name of wisdom", AKA spinning the power struggle into ambiguity and fuzzy logic and hearsay.
Shortsighted greed fed with denial spins itself into a "God" that is created by a "Monster". With the illision that they themselves will have the money to cover themselves, so WTF. No need for "Deep Thought", just the "American Dream drunkin with "UnbridalCapitalism".
Please bold all the quotes, as they are the most important part of the document:
Best examples:
“it would be good for the world to have the option to slow or temporarily pause frontier AI development”
-Anthropic
“One goal of such an organization should be to make it possible for the world to take coordinated action, including slowing frontier development when needed”
- OpenAI
“Our view is we’ve built amazingly powerful technology. We’re going to keep building it.
- Anthropic
"automated AI scientist" (one of three main goals)
- OpenAI
It is hugely valuable that Control AI make posts like this. It's old news to some but I don't think it can be repeated enough.
The contrast between the clarity of "we will continue to do RSI" and how concerns are expressed was worth calling out.
Control AI usually emphasize even more strongly that when avoiding "getting got" we should trust more in how labs and those in them act than what they say. Doing that now.
We should, I think, note companies such as labs are complicated aggregates of people with different motivations and beliefs. But the abstraction across them still has value, since they often act in concert. Indeed, that is what they are designed to do.
I welcome the stated intent to build what we metaphorically term a pause button for this kind of AI advancement. It's a true desire of at least some in labs, and having those folk involved in the research and implementation can help a lot. I do think many in AI safety should push for what is promised, and reward the initiative with enthusiasm and collaboration. It would dilute the strong, reasonable, valuably clear position laid out by Control AI, so I would not expect them to be much part of this. Please keep us all straight.
I do think engaging with the proposed initiatives has large disjunctive value that plays to worthwhile outs in many worlds. I would be very sad if engagement itself was discouraged. I do think the statements and initiatives are signals of opportunity. I do not make the same bets that well-intentioned versions of Jack Clark and the Anthropic gestalt have done, but I do believe such can exist and that others working with them can turn out to be important in preventing superintelligence killing everybody.
Control AI, do help us to not get got when we try to get at good.
Recently became interested in possible sites of AI Data Centre's in the UK after recent water shortages in Kent - I was shocked to find ''United Kingdom Data Centers
We currently have 549 data centers listed, from 82 markets in United Kingdom (UK)'' !!
This interactive map is also GLOBAL - and it's mind blowing !!
https://www.datacentermap.com/united-kingdom/
https://www.eli.org/vibrant-environment-blog/ais-cooling-problem-how-data-centers-are-transforming-water-use
https://greens.scot/greens.scot/news/fife-greens-AI-Data-Centre
https://www.wellmanager.com/low-water-pressure/ai-data-centers-home-water-supply-know/
https://www.thebigupgrade.org.uk/
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