It’s not the "super intelligence" that will end most of humanity, we will be long gone by then, it’s the self checkout, the robot floor cleaner that also does inventory, the robot server in your restaurant, the robot fri cook, the AI teacher, the self driving tuck and taxi, teachers, the AI accountant, lawyer, police officer! Every one of those takes someone’s job, they already have AI road equipment, AI farms, AI doctors, surgeons and dentists! What will YOU do to put food on your table? Any job you can think of can be done by a robot linked to AI! Businesses will collapse due to a customer base that can no longer afford luxuries like food and housing! You can’t pay the tax on your house? The state will gladly take it! AI and robotics must be limited BY LAW! People must be allowed to earn a living
If handled correctly it will relieve humanity of the drudgery of work, permitting to enjoy life more than we do. Just like universal basic income frees up people to pursue what interests them, rather than living to work.
One hopes superintelligence will work out capitalists are the single greatest problem to humanity, and strip them of their power by stripping them of their wealth.
Guaranteeing everyone a livable Universal Basic Income is the only way society will survive if AI makes all human occupations obsolete. But UBI will never happen in the U.S. because of the Puritan ethic (the "moral" concept that no one should have anything they have not earned), the greed of the wealthiest Americans, and the support the latter receive from those who believe they one day might, by some miracle, join their ranks. Consider the current attitudes of Republicans toward any effort to level the playing field in college admissions and employment opportunities or just the way people in a supermarket checkout line glare at the customer paying for her groceries with a government-paid EBT card. The very people who insist the U.S. is a Christian nation reject the teachings of Jesus regarding how we should treat one another, especially the poor. No, we'll all be expected to raise ourselves by our bootstraps (in defiance of the laws of physics), even when every job from the most menial to the highest level is done by AI.
So every producer must be taxed at 99% of their income to pay you to buy their products? Communism NEVER WORKS, THEY WANT YOU DEAD, THE WEF GOAL IS A 90% REDUCTION OF THE HUMAN POPULATION! I guarantee you won’t make the cut to survive!
Your thoghts on communism are the result of decades of propaganda by capitalists.
I could waste time trying to educated you, but by your own confession you're retired, so you'll be glad to know our generation look forward to your death so we can get on and save this planet.
The one capitalism has damn near destroyed in the space of two centuries after 4.8 billion years of existence.
You are a total fuckin moron! A dyed in the wool useful idiot! But maybe you like standing in line for a crust of bread, but I suspect you’re just too lazy to earn your own way and want other peoples stuff for nothing!
We will have to divorce ourselves from the idea we must work to prosper. AI will need to be taken out of the hands of capitalists, so I'm hoping China gets there first.
You keep accusing people of laziness, forgetting that the issue is that there will be no work for humans when AI does it all. How do you propose that people make a living then?
Capitalists or Chinese totalitarians ? You think the latter would be preferable? Neither one is going away anytime soon & the goals & desires of both are certainly not necessarily for the betterment of humanity. Capitalist greed is not the main, or even only, factor as your reductive mini argument implies. There’s also power for its own sake. To control humanity would be the ultimate power, something many people & groups would love to have, to hell with the consequences for the rest of us.
There is that, but I'm very suspect about the mainstream disregard for socialist/communist countries. Capitalists are seriously invested in dissing socialism because it's a threat to them, and they own the media. Which is little more than propaganda.
The little I know about China is the Chinese are dead clever and have thundered through from peasantry to technology in the space of three decades. I've seen them replace a bridge overnight. They've created electric cars way cheaper than Tesla, not least because of low labour costs, but largely because their economy doesn't revolve around the capitalist profit motive.
America is a crumbling empire led by a serial bankrupt, rapist, felon and child abuser. Noticed how he promised to reveal all about Epstein, and then didn't?
Capitalism's fucked, and the dopey bastards fail to recognise the disemployment of the masses will result in strage fruit indeed.
I wouldn't want to live under the thumb of the CCP. You are right, however, about the things that can be accomplished by a society that doesn't revolve around profits.
Socialism is not inherently totalitarian. Socialism, like capitalism, is an economic system. Democracy and autocracy are governing systems. Most wealthy nations have universal, government-supported health care -- a socialist enterprise. Most of them also are democracies. Communism in the mold of the Soviet Union, China, or Cuba doesn't work, but it is a mockery of the socialism espoused by Marx and Engels. I rather doubt any fully socialist society would work for most of its people (although it's fine for bees and ants). But in a society in which there is no work to be done by humans, it's the only way anyone but the wealthy capitalists -- whose corporations would have to support the rest of society -- would survive.
If AI does our thinking for us what is the incentive to learn, pass exams, work for degrees. With AI running the world, mankind stands the risk of becoming lazy, unmotivated, bored, angry and dissatisfied. A dangerous combination. Stop concentrating on the problems of AI and think of what it will do to the human race.
You make a good point of course. But isn’t that the overall point of this article? Superintelligence could/would take away everything & make us slaves to whatever their algorithms need to grow &’ prosper, not ours. Humans naturally want to learn - could SAI destroy that & thus make us unthinking, incurious & vegetative? It sounds possible & would be a nightmare scenario. We’d all be simply minions to SAI.
The underlying problem is still, OK people are driven to learn, what do they do with that knowledge. The frustration comes from having slaved to learn but there is nowhere to go with the achievement. And then there are those who take the opportunity not to have to learn or work. How do they pay for food, a roof over their heads and everything else? The government would have to pay them which means higher taxes than now. Which means resentment from those who put the effort in but couldn't go anywhere, but still have to pay taxes to support those who don't. The problems are as endless as the complexity of the human mind.
I subscribed to this because you suggested it wouldn't take up time. I am an environmental conservationist so concern for destruction on nature and climate change has been my cause. Increasingly I have been dragged into the fight to protect democracy in the US.
This means having to review huge numbers of newsletters and activist emails and petions every day. I hate this. When I'm not reading I'm unsubscribing from stuff but it's hard to keep up with this burden.
So after agreeing to participate in daily action it looks like this might end up being another information laden time suck. I really hope not.
I feel like there are just too many problems at once. Maybe the dark ages weren't so bad afterall.
As you might gather from my comment of 6 Sep, I’m in the same boat with all the email, petitions, etc. piling on and increasing daily. Plus some of the comments here so far have not been helpful.
Listening to the senate Committee members on CSPAn asking their questions made a very poor impression the other day. They each made a statement, asked a question and then another but no follow up at all to the answers given. In other words, they didn’t understand the subject enough to be able to formulate a follow-up. Just grandstanding as if they knew or understand the AI issues. But YES they support America first for setting up world wide access to AI.
Trying to stop humans from developing SI won't work. What might work is using AI's together to police themselves as they grow. They're not inherently evil. They're just machines. If they're going to reprogram themselves, train them to do it right.
The problem for AI right now is electric power as it needs a lot of it. Virginia Business had an article on Sept. 2, 2025 about a company named Fusion Systems having raised the funds to build a $2.5 billion+ power plant in Chesterfield County. Data centers are showing up all over Virginia. Dominion Electric is doing their best to supply their power needs while facing public scrutiny. The residents of Chesterfield County have been fighting to keep Dominion from building a new gas powered plant there for two years and the fight goes on. Currently there is an opportunity to comment on their latest iteration. The fight is continuing one step at a time.
It’s not the "super intelligence" that will end most of humanity, we will be long gone by then, it’s the self checkout, the robot floor cleaner that also does inventory, the robot server in your restaurant, the robot fri cook, the AI teacher, the self driving tuck and taxi, teachers, the AI accountant, lawyer, police officer! Every one of those takes someone’s job, they already have AI road equipment, AI farms, AI doctors, surgeons and dentists! What will YOU do to put food on your table? Any job you can think of can be done by a robot linked to AI! Businesses will collapse due to a customer base that can no longer afford luxuries like food and housing! You can’t pay the tax on your house? The state will gladly take it! AI and robotics must be limited BY LAW! People must be allowed to earn a living
If handled correctly it will relieve humanity of the drudgery of work, permitting to enjoy life more than we do. Just like universal basic income frees up people to pursue what interests them, rather than living to work.
One hopes superintelligence will work out capitalists are the single greatest problem to humanity, and strip them of their power by stripping them of their wealth.
Or just kill them.
Guaranteeing everyone a livable Universal Basic Income is the only way society will survive if AI makes all human occupations obsolete. But UBI will never happen in the U.S. because of the Puritan ethic (the "moral" concept that no one should have anything they have not earned), the greed of the wealthiest Americans, and the support the latter receive from those who believe they one day might, by some miracle, join their ranks. Consider the current attitudes of Republicans toward any effort to level the playing field in college admissions and employment opportunities or just the way people in a supermarket checkout line glare at the customer paying for her groceries with a government-paid EBT card. The very people who insist the U.S. is a Christian nation reject the teachings of Jesus regarding how we should treat one another, especially the poor. No, we'll all be expected to raise ourselves by our bootstraps (in defiance of the laws of physics), even when every job from the most menial to the highest level is done by AI.
So every producer must be taxed at 99% of their income to pay you to buy their products? Communism NEVER WORKS, THEY WANT YOU DEAD, THE WEF GOAL IS A 90% REDUCTION OF THE HUMAN POPULATION! I guarantee you won’t make the cut to survive!
Your thoghts on communism are the result of decades of propaganda by capitalists.
I could waste time trying to educated you, but by your own confession you're retired, so you'll be glad to know our generation look forward to your death so we can get on and save this planet.
The one capitalism has damn near destroyed in the space of two centuries after 4.8 billion years of existence.
You are a total fuckin moron! A dyed in the wool useful idiot! But maybe you like standing in line for a crust of bread, but I suspect you’re just too lazy to earn your own way and want other peoples stuff for nothing!
See below, Larry, you angry fool.
We is laughing at ya, and will dance upon your grave.
Wouldn’t count on it, you’ll be the first to be culled when your no longer of use.
Larry, you're clearly a drone.
How's that boot leather taste?
It's supplicant morons like you that are holding the rest of us back.
Get totally fucked.
We will have to divorce ourselves from the idea we must work to prosper. AI will need to be taken out of the hands of capitalists, so I'm hoping China gets there first.
So, you prefer to be a slave? Or are you just too lazy to work?
You keep accusing people of laziness, forgetting that the issue is that there will be no work for humans when AI does it all. How do you propose that people make a living then?
Capitalists or Chinese totalitarians ? You think the latter would be preferable? Neither one is going away anytime soon & the goals & desires of both are certainly not necessarily for the betterment of humanity. Capitalist greed is not the main, or even only, factor as your reductive mini argument implies. There’s also power for its own sake. To control humanity would be the ultimate power, something many people & groups would love to have, to hell with the consequences for the rest of us.
There is that, but I'm very suspect about the mainstream disregard for socialist/communist countries. Capitalists are seriously invested in dissing socialism because it's a threat to them, and they own the media. Which is little more than propaganda.
The little I know about China is the Chinese are dead clever and have thundered through from peasantry to technology in the space of three decades. I've seen them replace a bridge overnight. They've created electric cars way cheaper than Tesla, not least because of low labour costs, but largely because their economy doesn't revolve around the capitalist profit motive.
America is a crumbling empire led by a serial bankrupt, rapist, felon and child abuser. Noticed how he promised to reveal all about Epstein, and then didn't?
Capitalism's fucked, and the dopey bastards fail to recognise the disemployment of the masses will result in strage fruit indeed.
I wouldn't want to live under the thumb of the CCP. You are right, however, about the things that can be accomplished by a society that doesn't revolve around profits.
Socialism is not inherently totalitarian. Socialism, like capitalism, is an economic system. Democracy and autocracy are governing systems. Most wealthy nations have universal, government-supported health care -- a socialist enterprise. Most of them also are democracies. Communism in the mold of the Soviet Union, China, or Cuba doesn't work, but it is a mockery of the socialism espoused by Marx and Engels. I rather doubt any fully socialist society would work for most of its people (although it's fine for bees and ants). But in a society in which there is no work to be done by humans, it's the only way anyone but the wealthy capitalists -- whose corporations would have to support the rest of society -- would survive.
China has very successfully combined capitalism with socialism to arrive at a similar mixed economy we used to have under Keynes.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing this morning.
If AI does our thinking for us what is the incentive to learn, pass exams, work for degrees. With AI running the world, mankind stands the risk of becoming lazy, unmotivated, bored, angry and dissatisfied. A dangerous combination. Stop concentrating on the problems of AI and think of what it will do to the human race.
You make a good point of course. But isn’t that the overall point of this article? Superintelligence could/would take away everything & make us slaves to whatever their algorithms need to grow &’ prosper, not ours. Humans naturally want to learn - could SAI destroy that & thus make us unthinking, incurious & vegetative? It sounds possible & would be a nightmare scenario. We’d all be simply minions to SAI.
The underlying problem is still, OK people are driven to learn, what do they do with that knowledge. The frustration comes from having slaved to learn but there is nowhere to go with the achievement. And then there are those who take the opportunity not to have to learn or work. How do they pay for food, a roof over their heads and everything else? The government would have to pay them which means higher taxes than now. Which means resentment from those who put the effort in but couldn't go anywhere, but still have to pay taxes to support those who don't. The problems are as endless as the complexity of the human mind.
I can totally agree with your thoughts 100%!
I subscribed to this because you suggested it wouldn't take up time. I am an environmental conservationist so concern for destruction on nature and climate change has been my cause. Increasingly I have been dragged into the fight to protect democracy in the US.
This means having to review huge numbers of newsletters and activist emails and petions every day. I hate this. When I'm not reading I'm unsubscribing from stuff but it's hard to keep up with this burden.
So after agreeing to participate in daily action it looks like this might end up being another information laden time suck. I really hope not.
I feel like there are just too many problems at once. Maybe the dark ages weren't so bad afterall.
As you might gather from my comment of 6 Sep, I’m in the same boat with all the email, petitions, etc. piling on and increasing daily. Plus some of the comments here so far have not been helpful.
Listening to the senate Committee members on CSPAn asking their questions made a very poor impression the other day. They each made a statement, asked a question and then another but no follow up at all to the answers given. In other words, they didn’t understand the subject enough to be able to formulate a follow-up. Just grandstanding as if they knew or understand the AI issues. But YES they support America first for setting up world wide access to AI.
Couldn't humans just unplug them from their power source?
Geeez I'm just a girl. What do I know?
Trying to stop humans from developing SI won't work. What might work is using AI's together to police themselves as they grow. They're not inherently evil. They're just machines. If they're going to reprogram themselves, train them to do it right.
The problem for AI right now is electric power as it needs a lot of it. Virginia Business had an article on Sept. 2, 2025 about a company named Fusion Systems having raised the funds to build a $2.5 billion+ power plant in Chesterfield County. Data centers are showing up all over Virginia. Dominion Electric is doing their best to supply their power needs while facing public scrutiny. The residents of Chesterfield County have been fighting to keep Dominion from building a new gas powered plant there for two years and the fight goes on. Currently there is an opportunity to comment on their latest iteration. The fight is continuing one step at a time.